Satanic Sundays

Satanic Sunday: Other Denominations

Good Morning Heathens and Hell-Bound friends and foes alike. I hope everyone is having a great Sunday, getting ready for atheist church and the potluck later. It’s time for another Satanic Sunday! For the last article in this series, click here:Satanic Sunday #11: Technological Advancements.

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Growing up in a Christian fundamentalist home, we were taught to believe that anyone who did not go to church were evil, and yet nearly as evil were the members of other denominations and sometimes simply the members of other churches in our same denomination. Let me break it down for you.

  • All the people outside the church – Definitely going to hell.
  • All the people in other denominations – Almost certainly going to hell
  • All the people in the church the next town over – probably going to hell.
  • All the people except for yourself, maybe going to hell.
  • You worry that you too are going to end up in hell.
  • So yep, everyone is going to hell.

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People who belonged to other denominations though, were especially heinous. Not only were they going to burn in hell but they were teaching Christianity wrong. They had the audacity to believe a slightly different interpretation of the scriptures and so they couldn’t possibly be right. It was absolutely clear that they only Christians that had ever gotten it completely right were the founders of our own particular brand of Christianity.

  • Mormons – Not even Christians they believe in Joseph Smith and Native American Jews.
  • Catholics – We like their Bible but they are idolaters who worship saints and drink booze.
  • Calvinists No Free-Will? Go F yourself…and by F yourself we mean “Forget” because swearing is evil.
  • Baptists – Once Save Always Saved My Ascot, Once Saved always burning in hell.
  • Methodists – Sleepy faith of burning sinners
  • Episcopal – They like Gays? Burn!
  • Presbyterians – We have no idea what you believe but burn in hell!
  • Lutherans – It was Adam and Eve not Luther and Steve!!!!

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Seriously, if there was one thing that I was warned about more than leaving the church it was following a different branch of the church. The only real Christians were tongue talking, spirit walking, devil slaying, earnest praying, kiss stealing, wheeling dealing Pentecostals of the particular denomination we belonged to at that given point.

I say at that point because we were Assembly of God and then we were Full Gospel, when we were Assembly the Full Gospel church seemed sinful, then when we were Full Gospel the Assembly looked sinful. We then settled into another Assembly of God church and once again the Full Gospel church was sinful…it was weird…

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One reason for this is that churches are incredibly competitive and they are all trying to get your business. Well, the Catholics are just kinda there, like a religious Wal-Mart, and they don’t really need to compete to stay in business, they just exist. Outside of the Catholics, the rest of the churches are fighting to gather in people from the same pool that every other church is working. The easiest way to keep the members you currently have, and gather in gullible new people, is claim that all the other churches are evil.

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Ministers do not like to lose members and so they will even portray a neighboring church from the same denomination as evil. Maybe the minister isn’t quite strong enough on a certain passage in the Bible. Perhaps you heard that the kids are unruly in a neighboring church and so obviously the minister there has no control over his church. Do they have a dirty past? You’ll bring that shit up in order to keep your own members. For every evil that modern politics has, religion has been doing it for much longer.

When I was a child I can remember more about the neighboring churches ministers than I can about many of our own home church ministers.

  • One minister had a gay son.
  • One minister had been divorced before becoming a Christian.
  • One smoked a pipe
  • One drank a few beers every now and then.
  • One had an extra-marital affair…..maybe…

None of them were as holy and good as our own pastor, and he let us know all about it. It wasn’t uncommon for a sermon to be completely about something that the minister heard about another minister and why he was definitely leading his congregation to hell.

One of the good things that I can say is that when I became a minister this type of thing had much less of a stigma. Most churches are liberalizing a good degree because they are losing members left and right. People no longer simply accept what they hear on Sunday as the golden truth and so outright lying about members of other churches is not as prominent anymore. Churches come together much more often for community potlucks and fellowship meetings.

It might seem strange but I was in my late teens before I even heard that members of another denomination could actually be considered as Christians. Even then it was said in a sermon that was highly criticized by the older members of the church and that pastor was voted out not long after he gave this sermon. Those older members are now gone and this sense of superiority to other denominations went with them, for the most part, Catholics and Mormons excluded.

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Satanic Sundays

Satanic Sunday #11: Technological Advancements

Good morning all of you heathens and hell-bound friends and foes alike! I couldn’t sleep tonight and so I figured if you can’t sleep, write! No idea how well this sleep deprived post will go but let’s get to it anyway. For last weeks Satanic Sunday, click here:Satanic Sunday: Final Fantasy

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So this post was meant to be about the internet and yet looking up information for this post I found that the internet was just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Christians viewing technology as satanic. As I researched I remembered instances of being in people’s homes who felt that these things were evil and how appalled they were to find that my parents had no problem with them. They believed that by my parents allowing my brother and I to enjoy the benefits of certain technological advancements it might lead to us rejecting the church and entering the world of atheism. How silly of them…my brother is still a theist. Anyway, let’s get to it, Satanic advancements in history….

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Planes, Trains, and Automobiles

Technology is always looking for ways to improve our lives, make them easier, more comfortable, and less stressful. I’m not sure how well they do since technology opens up a whole new world of stress but the goal is to make things easier.  To the biblical believer, making things easier is to fight against gods plan for us on earth and is of course the work of the devil. Life is supposed to be hard because the bible says it’s supposed to be hard.

So it should come as little shock that when mass transit and automobiles came into the picture there were god botherers there to try to stop it. Both trains and automobiles were considered too fast and too dangerous for any good Christian to ever consider owning. At 35 MPH that wind might just rip your wife’s dress clean off and have her nakedness exposed to the world. Planes on the other hand were considered evil because they were trying to improve on mankind, by adding flight to our set of skills.

“If god has meant for man to fly he would have been born with wings!”

To improve upon gods creation is to say that he didn’t do a great job at it and that it needs improving. God created this world perfect and we are the ones that messed it up, so how dare we attempt to do something contrary to his plan. Yet millions fly each day without incurring the wrath of this supposed insecure god. How weird?

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Radio

Radio was considered sinful because of what it was going to bring into your home, secular music and programming. Why would any christian want to listing to big band music when instead they could hum a hymn while reading the good book? Radio not only brought music into the homes of millions but it also brought dramas, gritty crime programs, comedies, and seductive programs.  The fear here is that people would turn away from their scriptural teachings and become a boozing womanizing sinful leach upon society.

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Telephones

What could possibly be more sinful than little Jane staying up late on Saturday night talking to Bobby. Jane should be getting rest in preparation for morning services and Bobby obviously had only one thing on his mind, leading Jane into temptation. Hell, for all we know Bobby might be smoking a weed while he talks to Jane and the devils smoke could pierce straight through those lines and into Jane’s unwilling womb, bringing to life the anti-christ and the end of the world.

Telephones brought the world closer together and most churches were fairly small, hometown operations, that were the end all and be all of salvation. Talking to your friend, who lived on the other side of the country about matters of faith, might allow you both to realize that though you both claim Christianity as your faith, your beliefs can be miles apart.

The telephone can be blamed for another creation that possibly is evil and diabolical…the troll. When telephones were new, each house was interconnected, and so everyone’s phone line was connected to everyone else. A person could enter into your conversation with a good friend and start messing with both of you. Not really anything to do with this post but I thought it interesting.

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Television

The “One Eyed Devil” is what I have heard the television referred to by many in my childhood. Lot’s of folks in Pentecostal circles refused to own a TV, those that did fell into two categories.

  • Those like my parents who loved TV and saw that it had the potential for both good and evil.
  • Those that loved TV but pretended to only use them for religious programming.

Many of the reasons that people saw the TV as sinful are actually crossovers with the Radio so I don’t feel the need to repeat them again. TV though had the ability to bring images into your home of violence and sex. TV was also something that everyone wanted and so it was considered by some in the fundamentalist realm as a version of the “Mark of the Beast.” The mark of the beast is what sinful people in the end times will wear upon their body in order to buy, sell, and survive. Just about any technology can be claimed to be the mark of the beast as long as it’s a new technology and people really want to own it.

I can personally remember going into homes that didn’t own a tv, or if they did, their TV was turned around to face the wall or covered in a blanket. I guess Christians believed the same thing as children in those days, monsters and evil cannot possibly get through a blanket.

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The Internet

It is honestly funny to me how evil the internet was considered to be and still is by many of religious faith. Yet, if you’re old enough, I want you to think about what the internet was like in the early 1990’s. You were lucky if you could even get connected to the damn thing, let alone commit any act of evil on it. Hell a single pornographic image could take an hour to download on a 14.4k modem….and yes kids, the internet used to move at the speed of 14.4 kilobytes per second.

The internet was evil because of what it opened up to you, the entire world. You no longer had to believe the people in your local community or even the televangelist on the TV, you could actively research matters on your own. Sure, before the internet we had access to information through encyclopedias and libraries but the internet put this information at your fingertips. Even if it might take several hours to get to where you needed to be on a single Geocities website, complete with awful midi background music.

The internet was also compared to the mark of the beast but people didn’t really care. Sure many Christian homes refused to even entertain the idea of the internet, at least in the short-term, but even the most stringent of believers will admit to its usefulness. My grandfather thinks the internet is completely the work of Satan and yet has, at numerous times, asked me to look things up for him when he felt the need. I guess I am immune to the power of Satan, or he really doesn’t care all that much.

Anyway, Technological advancements had long been praised by the secular world and hated by the religious world, until such a time that the religious world finds a use for that technology. Transportation was evil until ministers realized they could draw larger crowds from many miles away, that meant more money and more souls for the lord….but definitely more money. TV and Radio were evil until ministers found ways to broadcast themselves and rake in millions. Telephones were evil and yet how could anyone sow their seed of faith to the 700 club without dialing that 1-800 number on the screen. Finally, the internet was evil until everyone started using it, religious websites popped up overnight, and the gospel was spread even further….which once again means more coin in the pockets of con artist preachers.

New technology will always be considered evil by the religious establishment, at least up until the point they figure out how to harness its profitability.

Unmasking Doctrine

Unmasking Doctrine #3: The Deity of Christ: Virgin Birth

Good evening Heathens and Hell-bound friends and foes alike! For the last article in this series, click here:Unmasking Doctrine #2: One True God. So this article was going to originally be a lot longer but I felt like I might split it up a bit. There is a ton to cover with this one. The Assemblies of God state that they have 16 fundamental truths but the third truth is actually 6 truths in one…

Anyway the 3rd Fundamental Truth states…

The Lord Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God.”

It then goes on to state that scripture declares several things about Jesus, tonight we will be talking about the first one, the virgin birth.

The Scriptures given to support this are:

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First off I want to give the AoG church some props…

Why?

Because they make no mention of Isaiah 7:14. Isaiah 7:14 is the verse most often quoted as proving that the virgin birth was necessary in order for Jesus to actually be the Messiah that people say he is. However we now know that the book of Isaiah was mistranslated and did not actually mean a virgin but simply a woman of marriageable age. Not only that but the prophecy that Isaiah is speaking of is actually fulfilled by the prophet Isaiah in the very next chapter. He makes love to a prophetess, and she conceives.  I have no idea how Christians have believed this verse to point to the birth of Jesus other than the New Testament says it points to Jesus.  Why would the birth of a child hundreds of years later be proof to a current ruler that god is truly in control?

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Prophet: Hey Trump!

Trump: Yeah?

Prophet: I’m going to prove to you that god is real!

Trump: How are you going to do that?

Prophet: Hundreds of years after you’re dead a child will be born to a young woman!

Trump: Obviously you are bigly a man of god!

Do you see how this might not exactly make sense? So good job to the Assemblies for seeing this and not even mentioning the scripture in their statement of faith. Bravo!

However, the scriptures given are just as nonsensical…

For one, Matthew 1:23 and Luke 1:31 are contradictory. In Matthew it says they called him Emmanuel and in Luke 1:31 it states they called him Jesus. Now I suppose this could simply be an example as Joe, also known as, Emmanuel, but I really don’t think that’s the case here. I actually think it’s simply a matter of one writer knowing the Old Testament better than the other. So in one, the author specifically gives the name quoted in Isaiah, in the other it skips that and just say, he was named Jesus, the Roman version of Yeshua, or Joshua. The reason I say this is that it supposedly is talking about the same situation. I really don’t think an angel would say, you’re going to call him Immanuel, but also call him Jesus the roman version of Yeshua….

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Luke 1:35 states…

The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. (NIV)

So the holy spirit will come(oooooohhhhh!!!!) on you, and your going to have a kid. He’s going to be called the son of god. However there is a footnote included with this scripture that states (Or : So the child to be born will be called holy.) This opens up a couple of issues.

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Alan Cumming…..get it….cumming….oh hohoho I am hilarious!

I’ve already had my little joke about the Holy Spirit cumming, but did you know that several Christian sects are much more in line with that idea? Some believe that god actually had sex with Mary and she conceived in that fashion.

For starters the term “sons of god” is used in the bible to just speak in general about mankind or it could also be angels. Generally it is used in reference to someone who is holy but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are divine. David was a son of god, Moses was a son of god,  neither of which were divine according to Christianity.

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Secondly, it’s that foot note, it could simply reference the idea that Jesus was going to be a holy man. Lot’s of people in the bible were considered holy men and they did not need to be born of a virgin. Samuel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Elisha and Elijah were all holy men who had no requirement of being born of a virgin to be considered holy and work the “will of god” on earth.

What really gets me is that two gospels completely skip the virgin birth altogether. Why are Mark and John absent in this respect? If it was something crucial to the faith then wouldn’t the writers of these two gospels want to get it into their books as well? I’ve heard it said that possibly these writers didn’t know about the virgin birth, which is pretty surprising if they are writing to tell us all about this great guy Jesus. I mean most biographers spend a pretty decent amount of time on the childhood of their subject, only a piss poor biographer would write a book without understanding as much as possible about their subjects life.

Also not knowing means that there had to be many Christians who had no understanding of this doctrinal belief, which means it must not have be seen as important originally, or maybe even added later?

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Others will say that John and Mark had other reasons for writing their books and since god’s divine hand was on the making of the bible, he knew that they need not mention the virgin birth again, I mean it would just get really boring if the gospels didn’t contradict one or two hundred times…

Yet these were the works that many churches based their entire beliefs upon for hundreds of years until the canon of the bible was put together. This means that you had not one, but many versions of Christianity from the very beginning and how on earth are you going to be able to come into the picture hundreds of years later and dictate which version is the correct one…and yet that is exactly what they did.

Truth is there is very little to support the belief in the virgin birth, far less than the life, death and resurrection of Christ. If it were important you would think it would be mentioned much more, yet I believe the reason is that it actually wasn’t important to the early church and was simply used as a means of proselytizing later on. We know that Christianity adopted holidays and practices of foreign religions in order to spread more easily, so why not adopt characteristics of foreign gods in the idea of their own god. It makes conversion far easier if folks don’t have to learn a completely new set of characteristics.

To conclude I will leave you with a list of other gods that are said to be born of virgin birth, they vary to some degree in the method but the message is clear, sex is icky and it makes you icky!

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Weekend Tube

Weekend Tube 02/03/2018

Good Morning Heathens and Hell-Bound friends and foes alike! It’s time once again for my favorite videos of the week. Last week we did a top 10 but I think I prefer the top 5 from the week prior as well as what I consider the video of the week. So without further ado, here are my favorites from this week.

Honorable Mention: Anti-Ordinary: RE: FreedomWars

Any video that takes Alex Jones to task deserves a mention here on this blog. Jones does nothing but make an ass of himself on a daily basis and I think his idiocy needs spread as far and wide as it possibly can be. The way to defeat a stupid idea is to let the stupid run free.

#5 Godless Engineer: Red Pill Religion Claims Popular Atheists Suffer Cognitive Dissonance

Are popular atheists drowning in a world of cognitive dissonance? Red Pill believes this to be the case because he presented shitty non-evidence for the existence of a soul and now all atheists are dying inside…. Ok, truthfully his evidence was just like any other evidence provided by these types, shoddy at best, and at worst it has nothing to do with what they claim it does. Enjoy!

#4 Seth Andrews: Secular State of the Union

Seth Andrews presents an excellent take on the state of the union according to secular standards. Andrews lays it all out there and if you watched the actual state of the union you will probably think this video is way more bigly cool and yugely inspirational.

#3 Holy Koolaid: The Atheist State of the Union 2018

Holy Koolaid really inspires me in this video. Even though it is much harder for someone to enter in to activism today, with sources of income being removed, the amount of amazing YouTubers, Podcasters, and Bloggers, who promote positive atheism, is amazing. Thank you for making this video!

#2 Godless Engineer: KC’s Corner: Jehovah’s Witness Elders Tell Us How to Stay Clean For Jehovah

Since watching this video I still don’t understand how some religious people can believe certain things are masturbation. I mean if your underwear rubs you the wrong way you’re now going to hell…..and that has to be some underwear…. Anyway this is a great video for KC who is just starting make videos herself, I think you will really enjoy it.

#1 Telltale Atheist: How To Get Rid Of Jehovahs Witnesses

Living with a town that contains not just a huge Mormon church but also a Jehovah’s Witness temple, we are constantly being visited by someone trying to spread the good news of their dogma. I can’t believe someone would sick a dog on people, that is awful. A lot of good information here, don’t be rude, just let them know you aren’t interested in their beliefs.

Video of the Week: Godless Cranium: Atheists Have No Meaning or Purpose?

For the second week in a row, Godless Cranium tops the list. This video is in response to the theist argument that atheists have no purpose in life. Guess what, we do! My purpose is to learn, love, and make people laugh. If I can do those three things I feel like my life is meaningful, blissful, and amazing. Thanks, GC for making this video, you are awesome!

Fiction and Stories

Free-Thought Friday: Losing My Christianity: Part 3

First off, I want to apologize for not getting this post up sooner. In all honesty I thought I had already done so.

For the first part: Click here: Free-Thought Friday #4: Losing My Christianity: Part 1
For Part two, click here: Free-Thought Friday: Losing My Christianity: Part 2

Now, on to the article, the third and final part.


 

After about a week, we arrived back home to Texas, and rested for a couple of days from the trip. One night, mom and Thomas decided to drink some vodka, and celebrate their new relationship. It was very annoying, because living a trailer, I got to hear all the noises from their elation, which I found repulsive, but tried to ignore. The next morning I had plans to go to the movies with a friend of mine, so I asked mom if she could drive us. She said she didn’t feel like it, so I would have to cancel. But Thomas stepped up and offered to take us, assuring mom that it was absolutely no problem, and it would give them some more alone time while I was gone. She agreed, so we got into the truck and went to pick up my friend, who lived pretty far into the country along a very curvy road.

“Stunned that I wasn’t dead, I got up from the pavement to assess the situation.”

As I said before, Thomas liked to drive fast, and saw that I found it rather fun. He commented that going this fast, seat-belts would be practically useless, so we didn’t bother to wear them. Being more level-headed than we were, my friend opted for the belt. At 80 miles per hour, we flew down the road, until we came around a sharp curve, when suddenly there was a white car going much slower than we were. Thomas hit the brakes, but it was too late. The truck slid sideways, and we began to tumble. Everything was in slow motion, and I recall the scene very well. The truck flipped 3 times, and I had been thrown out the passenger window, and landed on the ground. Last thing I remember before passing out was seeing the truck about to fall on me. I woke to the sound of my friend screaming and crying. Stunned that I wasn’t dead, I got up from the pavement to assess the situation. I saw my friend, and checked to see if she was ok. She seemed a bit scratched up, but fine. The one alarming things was: I couldn’t find Thomas. I frantically searched for him while the sound of the arriving ambulance sirens rang in the distance. As they pulled up, I spotted his body, lying facedown in the water of a nearby ditch. I was absolutely horrified as the paramedics surrounded me, trying to get me to lie down. Frantically I denied their request, saying, “He’s in the ditch! GET HIM FIRST! He’s going to DROWN!” They didn’t seem to be heeded my command, so I started cussing them, “FUCK YOU! HE’S IN THE GODDAMN DITCH, ASSHOLE! I’M FINE, SO LEAVE ME ALONE… HE’S NOT FINE!” It wasn’t until I heard my mother’s voice that I obeyed their requests to lie down and let them examine me. I was still yelling for them to get Thomas, and pointing in that direction until they started moving toward him. After they looked me over, they told me they were going to put me in the ambulance. I refused, saying I was fine enough to just walk home, since it was only about 1/4 mile away. Mom told me this wasn’t happening, and after a few stern words, I conceded and got into the ambulance alongside my friend, who was still screaming. Now I could focus on getting her calm on the way to the hospital, but I still wondered what became of Thomas. Was he even alive?

The ambulance arrived at the hospital, and I got probed and prodded in various ways for them to find out of I had any significant injuries. Mom was there to ensure that I allowed them to do what was needed. They wheeled me to radiology, where x-rays revealed I had cracked my coccyx, which is the bone at the base of the spine. I was feeling better after meds, but we still had no word on Thomas. I was worried, but knew we would find out eventually what became of him. Having been sent back to the ER bed after x-ray, suddenly I heard a loud wailing. It was my mom’s voice, and after some time passed, she came and told me that once I was discharged, we were going down to Houston where Thomas had been life flighted. Apparently one of the medics had told her that he wasn’t going to make it, and he had gotten Thomas’ brain matter all over his hands. This was so upsetting – finally someone was in our lives that seemed to actually care for us, and now he was dying. After I was discharged, mom stuffed me in her other truck, groggy, hurting, and still a bit in shock, and rushed down to Houston to where he was. When we finally arrived and received an update on his condition, the doctors told mom that Thomas had sustained a closed-head injury, and at this point we couldn’t be sure of the outcome, since he was in critical condition, but it wasn’t as bad as the medic had conveyed before. All of his brain matter was intact, but the swelling was life-threatening, and he was in a coma. Apparently he had still been drunk from the night before, and that’s what led to his poor judgement while driving two teenaged girls to the movies.

Her friend was really nice to me, and took very good care of the various wounds that were missed at the hospital, as well as made sure that I tried to move around despite the pain, so I could regain my ability to walk.”

After having been in a wreck, and visiting two different hospitals all day long, I was tired, hurting, and ready to go home. Mom decided she didn’t want to go too far from where Thomas was, so she called up a life-long friend who resided in the area to ask if we could stay with her a while. Her friend agreed, so we went there. I couldn’t even walk on my own until a week later, so I pretty much stayed on her couch while mom frequented the hospital where Thomas was. Her friend was really nice to me, and took very good care of the various wounds that were missed at the hospital, as well as made sure that I tried to move around despite the pain, so I could regain my ability to walk. For her I shall always be thankful, and feel very lucky that someone was there for me when my mom seemed to abandon me. After about a month of staying there, I decided that I wanted to go home. Mom didn’t want to go, but I insisted she take me there. Mom opted to stay in Houston, so once again, I was alone, and felt totally abandoned. It was during this time I began a real rebellion against the idea of god, and stopped praying altogether. After all, what kind of loving god would have allowed so much of my suffering? I had always believed, always prayed, and remained faithful to the idea my entire life. What good did that do me? It was quite apparent that no one loved really me, and my parent didn’t seem to care about my wellbeing enough to offer guidance or take care of me when I needed it the most. Why did god give me parents that abused and abandoned me?

“You and me against the world,” was never true…”

Six months, and many surgeries later, Mom brought Thomas home. He wasn’t able to speak, walk, or eat on his own. He required constant care, and after a year or so, he regained some abilities, but was never quite the same. He had no control over his emotions, and would have angry and sometimes violent outbursts. I had begun to discover the opposite sex, and would take advantage of mom being stuck at the house with Thomas by running off, getting drunk on occasion, and hanging out with friends whenever I wanted. Some of the guys I knew were already atheists, so we would discuss the god concept quite often. I still maintained outwardly that I believed for a while, but had so much doubt and could no longer reason with them as to why I would still hold the belief. God had not kept us safe, but our decisions to leave did, and he certainly didn’t help maintain my relationship with mom. “You and me against the world,” was never true, but a platitude to momentarily make me feel better. Not long after I had turned 15 years of age, I decided to pray one last time, just in case there was a god. I wanted him to know that I was angry with him for putting me in abusive situations, giving me parents that didn’t give two shits about me, and for never once answering a single prayer. After that last prayer, I knew I was an atheist. I never went back to a belief in the Christian god, and have sought comfort in real explanations about things, lots of cognitive behavioral therapy, and delving deep into understanding life through science and philosophy as opposed to nonsense.


 

Jennifer writes the Wednesday Woo feature here most weeks. She is the love of my life and amazes me how she has coped with what she went through as a child as well as how she came away from new age beliefs later in life. I hope you have enjoyed reading this part of her story and I am so proud that she told it.

Bad Theism

Bad Theism: Angels

Good evening heathens and hell-bound friends and foes alike. As always, if you’d like to read the last Bad Theism article, click here: Bad Theism: The God of the Book Deal. Tonight we are going to talk about the helpers of god, the Angels.

First, I want to give credit where credit is due, I owe the idea for tonight’s article to Saint Brian the Godless who tweeted today.

BrianSo thank you Saint Brian!

Anyway, let’s get right down to it.

Angels, if we are to believe the bible are a race of beings that god created to serve him. Angels are kinda like the beta version of man. In the bible angels can come in many shapes and forms, however they seem to have a handful of purposes.

  1. Worship God
  2. Kill Kids
  3. Control the wind
  4. Act as messengers

Anyway, what separates Angels from man is that they lack free-will and since they are immaterial they have no need for a soul. Now, like many other things that Christians believe, there is actually not all that much in the bible to back up these claims, however these are fairly well accepted since they make things easier to understand. Without the idea that angels lack free-will they could have another fall at any point and create absolute chaos.

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Now, remember, Lucifer supposedly rebelled against god and was cursed to one day spend an eternity in hell. As the saint above questioned, how could something without free-will rebel? They couldn’t, it’s not a possibility and makes absolutely no sense. If Lucifer was created, along with the other angels, with the sole purpose of serving god then there is no way that a being like that could choose to rebel.

But lets look at this from a couple of other directions.

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How bad of a creator is god? He created two races of sentient beings and both turn against him? This would be like if every version of the Windows operating system tried to kill Bill Gates.  Imagine if an inventor built two separate inventions, a hair straightener and a curling iron. Now imagine if the straightener decided to curl hair and the curling iron decided to murder puppies. That inventor would find himself on the street, to forever be the laughing stock of other inventors whose inventions actually do what they were built to do. Yet, for some strange reason, god gets a pass even though he absolutely sucks at creating sentient beings that do what they are meant to do.

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The second point that I’d like to make is what is the purpose of angels existing at all? Is god omnipotent? Is god omniscient? Is god omnipresent? The vast majority of Christians would answer yes to all three of these questions and yet if the answer is yes then the existence of angels is unnecessary and would actually point to a malevolent god if one were to exist.

Why do I say this?

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Omnipotent

If god is omnipotent, or all-powerful, then he would be fully capable of doing all that needs done in the universe without the need for helpers. He could control the winds, keep the planet spinning, keep the sun shining, do absolutely everything that needs done and still not be winded in the slightest degree. Omnipotent means that god cannot get tired,  he would literally be a being of perpetual motion.

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Omniscient

If god is omniscient, or all-knowing, then he would have no need to have angels watching over mankind. As he would know exactly what was going to happen before it happened and if needed he could swoop in and fix any issue that might occur. This is especially true if god is omnipotent and omnipresent as well. Angels are unneeded in this scenario because god already knows all.

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Omnipresent

If God is omnipresent, or everywhere, then he would have no need for angels because he already exists everywhere. If someone needed told anything, god’s already there so he can do the talking himself. If a sports team needs a boost he would already be there to get them into the endzone. If a child was dying of cancer, he would already be there to watch as the child’s life slips away from it because god simply loves dying kids.

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Malevolence

Why do I say that if angels exist then god is malevolent? Well, this is simply due to the fact that he created an unnecessary slave class for the sole purpose of being an unnecessary slave class. An all-powerful, all-knowing, all-present being that still chooses to create not one but two classes of people for the purpose of worshipping and serving him is malevolent.


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It doesn’t take much thinking to realize that angels are completely illogical. What’s more is angels in Abrahamic and other monotheistic religions in the area, simply play the part that lesser gods play in polytheistic faiths.  Instead of Apollo, Aphrodite, and Hades, as in the greek polytheism, Christianity instead has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan. Now, my own opinion is that humans, for the most part, are fairly skeptical to begin with. So perhaps, when the monotheistic faiths were springing up there were certain people who were saying…”Nope, not going to buy it, no way there is a single being that can do everything, know everything, and be everywhere.” So in order to get these people to accept their faith, angels were thrown into the mix. Now, the monotheists could still say that their god was all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-present, but he chose to use angels in order to do his dirty work.

Angels also play an easy scapegoat in regards to evil existing in the world. Evil isn’t gods fault, it’s due to the bad angels. This world would be perfect if it wasn’t for that evil angel that told Eve to eat the fruit, and bring the curse upon the world. See…easy peasy lemon squeezy. Everything now makes perfect sense and god is off the hook for evil existing even before man chose to sin.

Except it doesn’t…

So let me explain why….

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Who started the ball rolling?

Let’s imagine you were standing on top of a mountain beside a giant boulder. You shove the boulder and as it rolls down the mountain it destroys property, damages roads, and kills several people. Now who would be at fault in this scenario? What court in the world would allow you to defend yourself by saying that even though you pushed the boulder, you weren’t at fault for what the boulder did after you pushed it.

Now as humans we may have a slight excuse, being able to say you didn’t know exactly what would happen when you pushed the boulder. It would be a shitty excuse but still an excuse. God doesn’t get to use that excuse though. If god is omniscient it means that he has never done anything without knowing exactly the eventual result of his reaction.

This means that god created angels knowing that they would rebel and then create man knowing the exact same thing would occur.

So either angels do not exist which would negate much of the bible and meaning that god is the origin of both all the good as well as all the evil in the world.

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God does exist and is malevolent, negligent, irresponsible, and just plain stupid.

 

Bad Theism · Inoculation Against Indoctrination

Inoculation Against Indoctrination: Atheists?

For the last post in this series, click here: Inoculation Against Indoctrination: Ages 0-3: Sights and Sounds.

So I started this series with a basic idea to describe how religious faiths indoctrinate people into their beliefs. However, the very first comment that I received on this through my twitter account was: “Are atheists indoctrinated as well as theists?” So, obviously we need to touch on this idea a bit before moving on to any other age groups.

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First let’s look at the definition of indoctrination.

Indoctrination – Noun

-the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.

So with that said can Atheists indoctrinate their children? The answer is of course yes, they could indoctrinate their children and probably some do, but I don’t see it as being as large of an issue as it is with religious faiths. In this article I will try to explain why?

First off, why would an atheist feel the need to indoctrinate their child? For example, when my daughter comes to me with a question, I don’t simply make things up, or go with what I have been told about something. If it’s something I am unsure of, the answer is as easy as, “I don’t know but let’s find out.” For the most part I try to raise my daughter to think critically, and to come to these answers on her own.

If she asks me what I believe about something I will be more than willing to tell her my own personal views on a topic and show her evidence to support those views, but I am not in the business of telling her this is how things are because I say this is how things are. Perhaps she will be religious when she grows older, so far she doesn’t show much interest in faith but there have been times that she has asked why we don’t go to church?

Her life is her life to live, it’s not my life. She is free to be an atheist, be religious, spiritual, gay, trans, straight, asexual, bisexual, her life choices are really none of my business as long as she isn’t hurting anyone or being hurt herself. My job is to keep her alive, make sure she gets an education, feed and cloth her, and then send her into the world with the tools that she will need in order to survive.

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I’ve already touched on it, but the second reason that I don’t think atheists indoctrinate their children to the degree that theists do, that being critical thinking. I teach her to question what she is told, if she thinks what I said doesn’t quite make sense I always encourage her to look it up for herself. We had a discussion about evolution the other day and she wasn’t quite getting the connection between apes and humans, as best as I tried to answer her questions it just wasn’t quite enough. A few minutes doing her own research and she was able to claim for herself that she now knows why humans are considered apes.

Religions for the most part are fairly lacking in the area of critical thinking. My entire blog is devoted to exposing these illogical and irrational mindsets. God said it and so I believe it is the epitome of non-critical thought. If god said it why did he say it, and how do we know which god said it or if this god that supposedly said something even exists. Critical thinking leads you to asking these questions and many more.

As I stated before, my daughter is her own person. I’m not trying to shape her into anything or make her conform to any mindset. Sometimes I will agree with the choices that she makes and other times I will disagree. I made a lot of mistakes growing up and I’m sure she will make plenty of mistakes as well. It’s a part of life and one that it will be her responsibility to sort out.

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Lastly, lets talk about the fact that I was indoctrinated into religion. I was taught chapter and verse every single day of my life for nearly 20 years and then I followed the faith for another 10 years after that. No one indoctrinated me into atheism, I came to atheism when I began to think critically about my own beliefs and try to make sense of them in a world where they do not make sense.

  • Why did god have to die so that god could forgive us from god?
  • Why do creationists fight science so much?
  • Why is there absolutely no evidence of a global flood?
  • Why is there no evidence of an exodus?
  • How could Adam and Eve understand the concept of sin if they hadn’t ate the fruit yet?
  • Why is the evidence for Jesus so scarce outside the gospels?
  • Why did the gospel writers wait decades before writing anything down?

Once I started looking at these ideas in a truly critical way, they completely fell apart and I was left with the choice of continuing to pretend being a believer or simply accept the fact that I no longer had a belief in god.

My story is actually pretty common, the number of people born to atheist families is fairly low compared to those who become atheists at a later date.  This makes sense due to the fact that atheists make up a fairly small portion of the general populace. We aren’t indoctrinated, we freed ourselves from the chains of indoctrination.

So when you say that atheism is simply another form of indoctrination, you are really no better than stating that the act of being free from slavery is equitable to still being a slave. My mind is free, I have no belief in god. I might have people I enjoy listening to, reading their books, or watching their videos, but I do not worship these people, I don’t base my life on the religion of Dawkins, the philosophy of Hitchens, or the creeds of Harris. I am my own person who looks at the evidence and come to my own conclusions.